-LG TV Line-Up 2018-

Iniciado por RobertGM84

Y no hay tiendadelamigosony? jeje, yo para meter mas cizaña a la discusion, no es cierto que sony y panasonic los componentes tienen mas fama de por asi decirlo o mejor calidad de componentes o mayor duracion de la tv en general?, siendo el panel el mismo lo sé..

Y una tienda del amigo Samsung? La 75 q9fn tiene una pinta estupenda...

Una review de la C8 desde FlatpanelsHD:

+++
Excellent HD & 4K
Excellent HDR
Reference picture quality
Improved motion
Low input lag

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Dolby Vision “raised blacks”
Rear-facing ports
webOS becoming stale
webOS is not getting updates



Picture quality is an entirely different story. While there are no significant OLED panel upgrades to speak of this year, C8 delivers some of the best picture quality you can find today. The ‘Alpha 9’ now matches – or exceeds – Sony’s video processor, and after comparing LG C8 and Sony A8F side-by-side we have seriously considered whether C8 should take over our Reference Award. It delivers excellent HD and 4K picture quality, and the best overall HDR we have seen to date, mainly driven by its pixel-level luminance and color control. It is a great TV for enjoying channels, streaming, movies, gaming etc. Motion has been improved and the auto-calibration feature is very cool, despite C8 having several very, very accurate picture modes. We are also excited about the fact that C8 exists in a 77” version that is actually within reach. And the speaker system has been improved.

We compared LG C8 head-to-head with the Sony 2018 A8F OLED and motion performance was almost identical. A8F had a slight edge perhaps but it was incredibly close, which is probably a result of ‘Alpha 9’. We also compared HDR video performance and again, things were incredibly close. We were slightly limited by the fact that our C8 had a 55” panel whereas Sony A8F had a 65-inch panel but performance was so identical that you would have to have the two TVs side-by-side to really spot any significant differences. LG had slightly higher peak brightness in some instances but Sony at times retained better saturation in the brightest colors. We call it a draw. We have included a few photos for your pleasure below be please note that it is not practical to take SDR photos of HDR video. Please don’t read too much into them. The motion photo also suggests that there is a major color temperature difference between the two calibrated TVs but it was much less pronounced in practice.

However, one pesky issue remains in the form of Dolby Vision’s “raised blacks”, and since LG’s TVs default to Dolby Vision when playing from a HDR source that offers shows or movies in more HDR formats than one, it is very hard to avoid. To be clear, it only happens occasionally but it is one of those things that is hard to ignore once you are aware of it. It surprises us that LG OLED TVs continues to be affected considering that the Loewe bild 5 TV we had in for testing at the same time had no issues with “raised blacks” in Dolby Vision. This is why we currently cannot consider it a reference TV.



https://www.flatpanelshd.com/review....&id=1525423234

Iniciado por sceips

Una review de la C8 desde FlatpanelsHD:

¡Gracias por el enlace! Interesantes y sorprendentes apreciaciones.
Ahora bien, si Hammlet anduviera por nuestros tiempos se preguntaría lo que todos nosotros: " ¿C8 o esperar a 2019? He aquí la cuestión".

Tal vez, como la C8 ha sido la primera en salir se lleva todos los honores Me encantaría ver una review comparativa entre la C8 y la E8. Algo tiene que ofrecer de más la E8 cuando su precio en 55 es casi igual que la C8 en 65... Toca seguir esperando.

LG TV 2018 - european models
____________________	W8, G8, E8, C8 ______________________	B8 ______________________	SK95 ______________________	SK90 / SK85 ______________________	SK81 / SK80 _______________________	SK79 _____________________	UK77 / UK75 ____________________	UK69 / UK67 ____________________	UK65 ___________________	UK64 ___________________	UK63 ___________________	UK61 _________________
Hardware & OS
CPU - marketing name	Alpha 9	Alpha 7	Alpha 7	Alpha 7	Alpha 7
CPU - frequency	1.008GHz	1.008GHz	1.008GHz	1.008GHz	1.2GHz	1.2GHz	1.2GHz	1.2GHz	1.2GHz	1.2GHz	1.2GHz
CPU - cores	4	4	4	4	4	4	4	4	4	4	4
GPU - cores	2	2	2	2	2	2	2	2	2	2	2
DDR - RAM (GB)	3GB	2GB	2GB	2GB	2GB	2GB	1.5GB	1.5GB	1.5GB	1.5GB	1.5GB
DDR - ROM Вътрешно пространство за съхранение (GB)	8GB	8GB	4GB	4GB	4GB	4GB	4GB	4GB	4GB	4GB	4GB
Panel
Type of matrix	OLED	OLED	65 - S-IPS 55 - S-IPS	65 - S-IPS (RGB) 55 - S-IPS (RGB) 49 - S-IPS (RGB)	75 - S-IPS (RGB) 65 - S-IPS (RGB) 55 - S-IPS (RGB) 49 - S-IPS (RGB)	65 - S-IPS (RGB) 55 - S-IPS (RGB) 49 - S-IPS (RGB)	65 - S-IPS (RGB) 55 - S-IPS (RGB) 49 - S-IPS (RGB)	70 - A-MVA 65 - S-IPS 55 - S-IPS 50 - A-MVA (RGB) 43 - S-IPS	86 - S-IPS () 75 - S-IPS 70 - A-MVA (RGB) 65 - S-IPS 50 - A-MVA (RGB) 43 - S-IPS	65 - S-IPS	65 - S-IPS (WRGB) 55 - S-IPS 50 - A-MVA (RGB) 49 - S-IPS 43 - S-IPS	65 - S-IPS
Panel frequency	120Hz	120Hz	65/55 - 120/100Hz	65/55 - 120/100Hz	75/65/55 - 120/100Hz 49 - 60/50Hz	65/55/49 - 60/50Hz	65/55/49 - 60/50Hz	75 - 120/100Hz 65/55/50/43 - 60/50Hz	86/75 - 120/100Hz 43 - 60/50Hz	60/50Hz	60/50Hz
Backlight	Self-luminous pixels (no backlight)	Self-luminous pixels (no backlight)	FALD Pro	Slim Direct LED	Edge LED	Edge LED	Edge LED	Edge LED	70 - Edge LED 50/43 - Direct LED	Direct LED	65, 55 - Direct LED 50/49/43 - Edge LED	65 - Direct LED
Local Dimming	Pixel Dimming / Self Lighting Pixel	Pixel Dimming / Self Lighting Pixel	96 zones	48 zones	Local Dimming	Local Dimming	Local Dimming	Local Dimming	Global Dimming	Global Dimming	Global Dimming
Color Depth	10-bit	10-bit	10-bit	10-bit	10-bit	10-bit	8-bit + FRC	8-bit + FRC	8-bit	8-bit	8-bit
Nano Cell	-	-	2.Generation	2.Generation	2. Generation	2.Generation	2.Generation	-	-		-
Brightness - SDR/HDR	200/400nit, 800nit	200/400nit, 800nit	200/560, 400nit / 700nit	200/400, 450nit / 540nit	200/	200/300	200/320, 600nit/400nit		200/400, 750nit/500nit		200/280, 350nit / 350nit
Uniformity	≥70%	≤70%	≥65%	≥65%	≥65%		≥65%		≥65%		≥65%
Contrast	140 000:1	140 000:1	200:1, 1600:1(?)	200:1, 1600:1(?)	200:1, 1400:1 (?)	200:1, 1400:1 (?)	200:1, 1400:1(?)	200:1, 1	200:1, 1200:1(?)		200:1, 1200:1(?)
Gamut coverage	98.5 DCI P3 uv	98.5 DCI P3 uv	94% DCI P3 uv	94% DCI P3 uv 74% Rec.2020 uv	90% DCI P3		90% DCI P3 uv		84% DCI P3 uv		80% DCI P3 uv
Response Time (време за реакция)	≤28ms	≤28ms	32ms ≤ 8ms (Тип.) ≤ 12ms (Макс)	32ms ≤ 8ms (Тип.) ≤ 12ms (Макс)	≤ 32ms ≤ 8ms (Тип) ≤ 12ms (Макс)	≤ 32ms ≤ 8ms (Тип) ≤ 12ms (Макс)	≤ 32ms ≤ 8ms (Тип) ≤ 12ms (Макс)		≤ 32ms ≤ 8ms (Тип) ≤ 12ms (Макс)		≤ 32ms ≤ 9ms (Тип) ≤ 13ms (Макс)
PWM dimming frequency	0Hz Flicker Free	0Hz Flicker Free	120Hz	120Hz
Viewing Angle Color Shift Brightness Black Level	-	-	-	- 25 ° 31 ° 75 °	-	-	-	-
Black Frame Insertion (BFI)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Motion Interpolation	TruMotion	TruMotion	TruMotion	TruMotion 200	75/65/55 - TruMotion 200 49 - TruMotion 100	TruMotion 100			86/75 - TruMotion 200 49 - TruMotion 100	TruMotion 100	TruMotion 100	TruMotion 100
IMAGE
Active HDR	Dolby Vision Technicolor Advanced HDR	Dolby Vision Technicolor Advanced HDR	Dolby Vision Technicolor Advanced HDR	Dolby Vision Technicolor Advanced HDR	Dolby Vision Technicolor Advanced HDR	Dolby Vision Technicolor Advanced HDR
Passive HDR	HDR 10 Pro HLG	HDR 10 HLG	HDR 10 HLG	HDR 10 HLG	HDR 10 HLG	HDR 10 HLG	HDR 10 HLG	HDR 10 HLG	HDR 10 HLG	HDR 10 HLG	HDR 10 HLG	HDR 10 HLG
HFR	4K: USB (without HDR) 2K: HDMI, USB		4K: USB (without HDR) 2K: HDMI, USB	4K: USB (without HDR) 2K: HDMI, USB	4K: USB (without HDR); 2K: HDMI, USB	2K: HDMI (60Hz), USB (60Hz)	2K: HDMI (60Hz), USB (60Hz)	2K: HDMI (60Hz), USB (60Hz)	2K: HDMI (60Hz), USB (60Hz)	2K: HDMI (60Hz), USB (60Hz)	2K: HDMI (60Hz), USB (60Hz)	No
Support for video decoder	HEVC (4K @ 120P, 10-bit) VP9 (4K @ 60P, 10-bit), SHVC (4K @ 60P, 10-bit)	HEVC (4K @ 120P, 10-bit), VP9 (4K @ 60P, 10-bit), SHVC (4K @ 60P, 10-bit)	HEVC (4K @ 120P, 10-bit), VP9 (4K @ 60P, 10-bit), SHVC (4K @ 60P, 10-bit)	HEVC (4K @ 120P, 10-bit), VP9 (4K @ 60P, 10-bit), SHVC (4K @ 60P, 10-bit)	HEVC (4K @ 120P, 10-bit), VP9 (4K @ 60P, 10-bit), SHVC (4K @ 60P, 10-bit)	HEVC (4K @ 120P, 10-bit), VP9 (4K @ 60P, 10-bit), SHVC (4K @ 60P, 10-bit)	HEVC (4K @ 60P, 10-bit), VP9 (4K @ 60P, 10-bit), SHVC (4K @ 60P, 10-bit)	HEVC (4K @ 60P, 10-bit), VP9 (4K @ 60P, 10-bit), SHVC (4K @ 60P, 10-bit)
Audio
Акустична честотна характеристика	160Hz-6300Hz	160Hz-6300Hz	160Hz-6300Hz	160Hz-6300Hz	160Hz-6300Hz	160Hz - 6300Hz	160Hz-6300Hz	160Hz-6300Hz	160Hz-6300Hz	160Hz-6300Hz	160Hz-6300Hz
Speaker system	W8 - 4x10W, 2x10W 65G8 - 4.2 sound system / 60 watts (subwoofer: 20 watts) 65E8 - 4.2 sound system / 60 watts (subwoofer: 20 watts) 55E8 - 2x10W, 2x10W 77C8 - 2.2 sound system / 40 watts (subwoofer: 20 watts) 65C8 - 4x10 55C8 - 2x10W, 2x10W			SK90 - 2.2 sound system / 40 watts (subwoofer: 20 watts) SK85 - 2.2 sound system / 40 watts (subwoofer: 20 watts)	SK81 - 2.2 sound system / 40 watts (subwoofer: 20 watts) SK80 - 2.0 sound system / 20 watts	2.0 sound system, 20 watts (2x10W),	2.0 sound system / 20 watts	2.0 sound system / 20 watts	2.0 sound system / 20 watts	2.0 sound system / 20 watts	2.0 sound system / 20 watts	2.0 sound system / 20 watts
Dolby Atmos	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	No	No
Speaker calibration to seating position	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	69 - Yes 67 - Compatible (requires Magic Remote Remote)
Bluetooth playback via TV speakers	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	yes	Yes
Supported audio codecs	AC3 (Dolby Digital), EAC3, HE-AAC, AAC, MP2, MP3, PCM, DTS, DTS-HD, DTS Express, WMA, apt-X	AC3 (Dolby Digital), EAC3, HE-AAC, AAC, MP2, MP3, PCM, DTS, DTS-HD, DTS Express, WMA, apt-X	AC3 (Dolby Digital), EAC3, HE-AAC, AAC, MP2, MP3, PCM, DTS, DTS-HD, DTS Express, WMA, apt-X	AC3 (Dolby Digital), EAC3, HE-AAC, AAC, MP2, MP3, PCM, DTS, DTS-HD, DTS Express, WMA, apt-X	AC3 (Dolby Digital), EAC3, HE-AAC, AAC, MP2, MP3, PCM, DTS, DTS-HD, DTS Express, WMA, apt-X	AC3 (Dolby Digital), EAC3, HE-AAC, AAC, MP2, MP3, PCM, DTS, DTS-HD, DTS Express, WMA, apt-X			AC3 (Dolby Digital), EAC3, HE-AAC, AAC, MP2, MP3, PCM, DTS, DTS-HD, DTS Express, WMA, apt-X	AC3 (Dolby Digital), EAC3, HE-AAC, AAC, MP2, MP3, PCM, DTS, DTS-HD, DTS Express, WMA, apt-X	AC3 (Dolby Digital), EAC3, HE-AAC, AAC, MP2, MP3, PCM, DTS, DTS-HD, DTS Express, WMA, apt-X
Smart TV
Smart TV platform	webOS 4.0	webOS 4.0	webOS 4.0	webOS 4.0	webOS 4.0	webOS 3.5	webOS 4.0	webOS 4.0	webOS 4.0	webOS 4.0	webOS 4.0	webOS 3.5
Web browser	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
My channels	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Magic Link	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Service
Magic remote remote control	Included	Included	Included	Included	Included	Included	Included	69 - Included 67 - Compatible (not included)	Compatible (not included)	Compatible (not included)	Compatible (not included)	Compatible (not included)
Remote control (type)	LG Magic Remote Remote Control (MR18)	LG Magic Remote Remote Control (MR18)	LG Magic Remote Remote Control (MR18)	LG Magic Remote Remote Control (MR18)	LG Magic Remote Remote Control (MR18)	LG Magic Remote Remote Control (MR15RA)	LG Magic Remote Remote Control (MR18)	LG Magic Remote Remote Control (MR18)
Remote control via app (LG TV Plus)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Intelligent speech recognition	Yes (German, English, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish)	Yes (German, English, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish)	Yes (German, English, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish)	Yes (German, English, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish)	Yes (German, English, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish)	Yes (German, English, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish)		Compatible (German, English, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish, Turkish, Russian, Korean) (Requires Magic Remote Remote Control)	Compatible (German, English, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish, Turkish, Russian, Korean) (Requires Magic Remote Remote Control)	Compatible (German, English, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish, Turkish, Russian, Korean) (Requires Magic Remote Remote Control)	Compatible (German, English, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish, Turkish, Russian, Korean) (Requires Magic Remote Remote Control)	Compatible (German, English, Italian, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Polish, Turkish, Russian, Korean) (Requires Magic Remote Remote Control)
Convert speech to text (speech-to-text)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Let texts speak (text-to-speech)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Quick Access (Hotkeys / Favorites)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Magic Zoom features	Live Zoom, Focus Zoom	Live Zoom, Focus Zoom	Live Zoom, Focus Zoom	Live Zoom, Focus Zoom	Live Zoom, Focus Zoom	Live Zoom, Focus Zoom		Live Zoom, Focus Zoom (requires Magic Remote Remote Control)	Live Zoom, Focus Zoom (requires Magic Remote Remote Control)	Live Zoom, Focus Zoom (requires Magic Remote Remote Control)	Live Zoom, Focus Zoom (requires Magic Remote Remote Control)	Live Zoom, Focus Zoom (requires Magic Remote Remote Control)
360VR	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Network Support	LAN, WLAN, Bluetooth	LAN, WLAN, Bluetooth	LAN, WLAN, Bluetooth	LAN, WLAN, Bluetooth	LAN, WLAN, Bluetooth	LAN, WLAN, Bluetooth	LAN, WLAN, Bluetooth	LAN, WLAN, Bluetooth	LAN, WLAN, Bluetooth	LAN, WLAN, Bluetooth	LAN, WLAN, Bluetooth	LAN, WLAN, Bluetooth
Screen Share functions (Screen Mirroring)	Miracast overlay	Miracast overlay	Miracast overlay	Miracast overlay	Miracast overlay	Miracast	Miracast	Miracast	Miracast	Miracast	Miracast	Miracast
DLNA	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
LG Sound Sync	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
SIMPLINK (HDMI CEC)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Various functions
Auto calibration	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	No
Gallery	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	No	No	No	No	No	No	No
Picture-in-Picture (Multi-View)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes			No	No	No	No
music player	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Recording on external USB hard disk	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Timeshift (time-shifted television)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Timer-controlled recording	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Network-enabled file browser	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Connections
HDMI	4	4	4	4	4	4			3	3	3	3
ARC support (Audio Return Channel)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
USB	3	3	3	3	3	2	2	2	2	2	2	2
LAN (Ethernet / RJ45)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
WIRELESS INTERNET ACCESS	Yes (802.11ac)	Yes (802.11ac)	Yes (802.11ac)	Yes (802.11ac)	Yes (802.11ac)	Yes (802.11ac)	Yes (802.11ac)	Yes (802.11ac)	Yes (802.11ac)	Yes (802.11ac)	Yes (802.11ac)	Yes (802.11ac)
Bluetooth	Yes (V4.2)	Yes (V4.2)	Yes (V4.2)	Yes (V4.2)	Yes (V4.2)	Yes (V4.2)	Yes (V4.2)	Yes (V4.2)	Yes (V4.2)	Yes (V4.2)	Yes (V4.2)	Yes
CI + Slot (Common Interface)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
CI + version (Common Interface)	CI + 1.4	CI + 1.4	CI + 1.4	CI + 1.4	CI + 1.4	CI + 1.4	CI + 1.4	CI + 1.4	CI + 1.4	CI + 1.4	CI + 1.4	CI + 1.4
Digital audio output (optical)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Headphone output (3.5 mm jack)	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes
Component / Composite (AV)	No	No	No	No	No	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes	Yes

En el apartado de "sistema de altavoces" tengo mis reservas que sean esos.
Faltaría tambien el número de sintonizadores en cada pantalla. Curiosamente en la C8 77 lleva doble sintonizador, como en la G8, en cambio en la C8 65 y 55 es simple.

¿La memoria DDR de 3GB es del mismo tipo que los PC? Y si...no se podría un Upgrade o ampliación de la memoria sin dañar la TV? ¿Y de la ROM? Me estoy liando yo solo y sin venis a cuento pero...¿se podria?

¿Para que quieres ampliar la RAM? ¡Esto no es un ordenador!. Es como intentar ampliar la RAM de un móvil, o de una videoconsola. A veces pienso que perdéis el norte, eh?. Sin acritud, pero....joder...

Lo sé, lo sé actpower. No tengo remedio, he visto la Ram DDR y zaass! No para ahora pero en un futuro lejano puede que compense abrir la oled y cambiar la memoria y que pueda soportar las futuras novedades ( apps) y actualizaciones. ¿Soporta/rá Webos Google Earth y Google Maps? Si ya sé que no es un ordenador pero en casa es de lo más se usa cuando nos reunimos y quieren verlo en pantalla grande y fluido ( rápido) y tal vez la memoria ram si que tenga mucho que decir. Pero nos metemos en campo de los ordenadores que creo que los televisores no tienen que obviar, al menos en aquello que pueda ser de uso general ( no todos disponen de ordenador ni saber manejarlo como personas mayores que tan sólo quieren ver como ha evolucionado los lugares donde han vivido o estado). Veremos que sale del acercamiento de LG y Google.