Configuraciones Marantz SR50xx, SR60xx, SR70xx, SR80xx y Denon X

Me ha vuelto a fallar así que probar cosas, creo que ya he descubierto el problema es el modo compatibilidad con eARC, lo que me está causando los problemas con los modos de sonido del denon, lo he desactivado y ya no ha vuelto a fallar los modos de sonido, permanecen todos en todas las aplicaciones y modos del denon

Iniciado por largiko

A ver que os parece esta comparativa. El Denon está 2499 y el Marantz en 3999€.
https://www.zkelectronics.com/compar...-cinema-30/uk/

Por si os interesa a alguno
Denon avr-x6800h 2188€
Marantz cinema 30 3499€

tengo Denon 4400 al intentar configurar Odyssey no me deja seguir o algo configuro mal !!!!
teniéndo 5.1 lo tengo mal porque no hay forma de configurarlo!!!

Creo que el problema es poner los surround en Back aunque estén en pared del fondo si no hay otros deberían conectarse a Surround L/R

Iniciado por ManuelBC

Creo que el problema es poner los surround en Back aunque estén en pared del fondo si no hay otros deberían conectarse a Surround L/R

Correcto.
Sin surrounds "normales" no se habilita las salidas de surround back.

Qué tal, buenos días. Estoy interesado en probar el tema de la curva Harman+4 en el Denon con la app multeq. El caso es que estaba leyendo el tema en avpasion, y ahora aquí leo en el primer mensaje que los valores que pone Tocinillo no son de la curva harman, y ponéis otros valores, que valores aconsejáis que pruebe? Como puedo ver cuáles son los valores harman? Googleo pero no saco nada en claro. Gracias.

Iniciado por maximo86

Qué tal, buenos días. Estoy interesado en probar el tema de la curva Harman+4 en el Denon con la app multeq. El caso es que estaba leyendo el tema en avpasion, y ahora aquí leo en el primer mensaje que los valores que pone Tocinillo no son de la curva harman, y ponéis otros valores, que valores aconsejáis que pruebe? Como puedo ver cuáles son los valores harman? Googleo pero no saco nada en claro. Gracias.

Primero, que tipo de curva quieres exactamente? pòr que te decides por la harman? y que harman? quieres que te suavize los agudos? o solo quieres un bass boost?

En todo caso, hagas la que hagas, el subwoofer hazlo manual des de la app, sino queda mal al hacerlo por notepad++, incluso por radbudyssey...

Te dejo algunas curvas que he probado y la verdad, cada una tiene lo suyo.

Spoiler:

B and K curve original.

"{20,1.3}","{22.4,1.4}","{25.2,1.5}","{28.3,1.5}", "{31.7,1.6}","{35.6,1.7}","{39.9,1.7}","{44.8,1.7} ","{50.2,1.7}","{56.4,1.7}","{63.2,1.7}","{71,1.7} ","{79.6,1.7}","{89.3,1.7}","{100.2,1.6}","{112.5, 1.6}","{126.2,1.5}","{141.6,1.4}","{158.9,1.3}","{ 178.3,1.3}","{200,1.2}","{224.4,1.2}","{251.8,1.0} ","{282.5,1.0}","{317,0.9}","{355.7,0.8}","{399.1, 0.7}","{447.7,0.5}","{502.4,0.4}","{563.7,0.3}","{ 632.5,0.2}","{709.6,0.0}","{796.2,-0.1}","{893.4,-0.3}","{1002.4,-0.4}","{1124.7,-0.6}","{1261.9,-0.8}","{1415.9,-0.9}","{1588.7,-1.1}","{1782.5,-1.1}","{2000,-1.4}","{2244,-1.4}","{2517.9,-1.5}","{2825.1,-1.7}","{3169.8,-1.8}","{3556.6,-2.0}","{3990.5,-2.1}","{4477.4,-2.2}","{5023.8,-2.2}","{5636.8,-2.1}","{6324.6,-2.1}","{7096.3,-1.8}","{7962.1,-1.8}","{8933.7,-1.8}","{10023.7,-1.7}","{11246.8,-1.6}","{12619.1,-1.4}","{14158.9,-0.8}","{15886.6,-0.2}","{17825,0.9}","{20000,2.3}"








Flat slope.

"{20,3.5}","{22.4,3.4}","{25.2,3.3}","{28.3,3.2}", "{31.7,3.0}","{35.6,2.9}","{39.9,2.8}","{44.8,2.7} ","{50.2,2.6}","{56.4,2.5}","{63.2,2.3}","{71,2.2} ","{79.6,2.1}","{89.3,2.0}","{100.2,1.9}","{112.5, 1.8}","{126.2,1.6}","{141.6,1.5}","{158.9,1.4}","{ 178.3,1.3}","{200,1.2}","{224.4,1.1}","{251.8,0.9} ","{282.5,0.8}","{317,0.7}","{355.7,0.6}","{399.1, 0.5}","{447.7,0.3}","{502.4,0.2}","{563.7,0.1}","{ 632.5,0.0}","{709.6,-0.1}","{796.2,-0.2}","{893.4,-0.4}","{1002.4,-0.5}","{1124.7,-0.6}","{1261.9,-0.7}","{1415.9,-0.8}","{1588.7,-0.9}","{1782.5,-1.1}","{2000,-1.2}","{2244,-1.3}","{2517.9,-1.4}","{2825.1,-1.5}","{3169.8,-1.6}","{3556.6,-1.8}","{3990.5,-1.8}","{4477.4,-1.8}","{5023.8,-1.7}","{5636.8,-1.6}","{6324.6,-1.5}","{7096.3,-1.3}","{7962.1,-1.2}","{8933.7,-1.1}","{10023.7,-0.9}","{11246.8,-0.8}","{12619.1,-0.5}","{14158.9,0.0}","{15886.6,0.7}","{17825,1.9} ","{20000,3.4}"


Slope and shelf.

"{20,6.0}","{25.2,6.0}","{31.7,6.0}","{39.9,5.6}", "{50.2,5.3}","{63.2,4.9}","{79.6,4.6}","{100.2,4.2 }","{126.2,3.9}","{158.9,3.5}","{200,3.1}","{251.8 ,2.8}","{317,2.4}","{399.1,2.1}","{502.4,1.7}","{6 32.5,1.4}","{796.2,1.0}","{1002.4,0.6}","{1261.9,0 .3}","{1588.7,-0.1}","{2000,-0.4}","{2517.9,-0.8}","{3169.8,-1.1}","{3990.5,-1.5}","{5023.8,-1.5}","{6324.6,-1.4}","{7962.1,-1.2}","{10023.7,-1.0}","{12619.1,-0.8}","{15886.6,0.4}","{20000,2.9}"


Harman

"{20,4.1}","{22.4,5.7}","{25.2,6.6}","{28.3,6.9}", "{31.7,7.0}","{35.6,7.1}","{39.9,7.1}","{44.8,7.1} ","{50.2,7.0}","{56.4,7.0}","{63.2,6.8}","{71,6.3} ","{79.6,5.4}","{89.3,4.2}","{100.2,3.0}","{112.5, 2.1}","{126.2,1.6}","{141.6,1.1}","{158.9,0.9}","{ 178.3,0.7}","{200,0.6}","{224.4,0.5}","{251.8,0.4} ","{282.5,0.3}","{317,0.3}","{355.7,0.2}","{399.1, 0.2}","{447.7,0.1}","{502.4,0.1}","{563.7,0.2}","{ 632.5,0.0}","{709.6,0.0}","{796.2,0.0}","{893.4,-0.1}","{1002.4,-0.1}","{1124.7,-0.2}","{1261.9,-0.3}","{1415.9,-0.4}","{1588.7,-0.5}","{1782.5,-0.7}","{2000,-0.9}","{2244,-1.2}","{2517.9,-1.4}","{2825.1,-1.7}","{3169.8,-1.9}","{3556.6,-2.3}","{3990.5,-2.4}","{4477.4,-2.6}","{5023.8,-2.7}","{5636.8,-2.7}","{6324.6,-2.7}","{7096.3,-2.6}","{7962.1,-2.5}","{8933.7,-2.5}","{10023.7,-2.3}","{11246.8,-2.3}","{12619.1,-2.1}","{14158.9,-1.5}","{15886.6,-0.8}","{17825,0.4}","{20000,1.8}"

Tool

"{20.0,2.3}","{22.4,2.2}","{25.2,2.2}","{28.3,2.2} ","{31.7,2.2}","{35.6,2.1}","{39.9,2.2}","{44.8,2. 1}","{50.2,2.1}","{56.4,2.1}","{63.2,2.0}","{71.0, 2.0}","{79.6,1.8}","{89.3,1.7}","{100.2,1.6}","{11 2.5,1.5}","{126.2,1.4}","{141.6,1.4}","{158.9,1.2} ","{178.3,1.1}","{200.0,1.0}","{224.4,0.9}","{251. 8,0.9}","{282.5,0.7}","{317.0,0.7}","{355.7,0.6}", "{399.1,0.4}","{447.7,0.4}","{502.4,0.3}","{563.7, 0.2}","{632.5,0.2}","{709.6,0.1}","{796.2,0.1}","{ 893.4,0.0}","{1002.4,0.0}","{1124.7,-0.1}","{1261.9,-0.2}","{1415.9,-0.3}","{1588.7,-0.4}","{1782.5,-0.5}","{2000.0,-0.6}","{2244.0,-0.6}","{2517.9,-0.6}","{2825.1,-0.7}","{3169.8,-0.7}","{3556.6,-0.7}","{3990.5,-0.7}","{4477.4,-0.6}","{5023.8,-0.5}","{5636.8,-0.3}","{6324.6,-0.2}","{7096.3,0.1}","{7962.1,0.2}","{8933.7,0.2}" ,"{10023.7,0.3}","{11246.8,0.2}","{12619.1,0.2}"," {14158.9,0.5}","{15886.6,0.7}","{17825.0,1.1}","{2 0000.0,1.9}"

Tool and bass boost

"{20.0,6.3}","{22.4,6.3}","{25.2,6.3}","{28.3,6.3} ","{31.7,6.3}","{35.6,6.2}","{39.9,6.2}","{44.8,6. 1}","{50.2,6.0}","{56.4,5.8}","{63.2,5.5}","{71.0, 5.1}","{79.6,4.6}","{89.3,4.0}","{100.2,3.3}","{11 2.5,2.6}","{126.2,1.9}","{141.6,1.4}","{158.9,1.2} ","{178.3,1.1}","{200.0,1.0}","{224.4,0.9}","{251. 8,0.9}","{282.5,0.7}","{317.0,0.7}","{355.7,0.6}", "{399.1,0.4}","{447.7,0.4}","{502.4,0.3}","{563.7, 0.2}","{632.5,0.2}","{709.6,0.1}","{796.2,0.1}","{ 893.4,0.0}","{1002.4,0.0}","{1124.7,-0.1}","{1261.9,-0.2}","{1415.9,-0.3}","{1588.7,-0.4}","{1782.5,-0.5}","{2000.0,-0.6}","{2244.0,-0.6}","{2517.9,-0.6}","{2825.1,-0.7}","{3169.8,-0.7}","{3556.6,-0.7}","{3990.5,-0.7}","{4477.4,-0.6}","{5023.8,-0.5}","{5636.8,-0.3}","{6324.6,-0.2}","{7096.3,0.1}","{7962.1,0.2}","{8933.7,0.2}" ,"{10023.7,0.3}","{11246.8,0.2}","{12619.1,0.2}"," {14158.9,0.5}","{15886.6,0.7}","{17825.0,1.1}","{2 0000.0,1.9}"

Tool HT.

"{20,2.4}","{22.4,2.3}","{25.2,2.3}","{28.3,2.3}", "{31.7,2.3}","{35.6,2.2}","{39.9,2.3}","{44.8,2.2} ","{50.2,2.2}","{56.4,2.2}","{63.2,2.1}","{71,2.1} ","{79.6,2.0}","{89.3,1.9}","{100.2,1.9}","{112.5, 1.7}","{126.2,1.6}","{141.6,1.5}","{158.9,1.4}","{ 178.3,1.2}","{200,1.2}","{224.4,1.0}","{251.8,1.0} ","{282.5,0.8}","{317,0.7}","{355.7,0.6}","{399.1, 0.5}","{447.7,0.4}","{502.4,0.2}","{563.7,0.2}","{ 632.5,0.0}","{709.6,-0.1}","{796.2,-0.2}","{893.4,-0.4}","{1002.4,-0.5}","{1124.7,-0.6}","{1261.9,-0.7}","{1415.9,-0.8}","{1588.7,-0.9}","{1782.5,-1.1}","{2000,-1.0}","{2244,-1.1}","{2517.9,-1.1}","{2825.1,-1.1}","{3169.8,-1.1}","{3556.6,-1.1}","{3990.5,-1.0}","{4477.4,-0.9}","{5023.8,-0.7}","{5636.8,-0.6}","{6324.6,-0.5}","{7096.3,-0.2}","{7962.1,-0.1}","{8933.7,0.0}","{10023.7,0.3}","{11246.8,0.5 }","{12619.1,0.9}","{14158.9,1.6}","{15886.6,2.4}" ,"{17825,3.7}","{20000,5.3}"

Harman with 2 db boost.


"{28.3,2.0}","{31.7,2.0}","{35.6,2.0}","{39.9,2.0} ","{44.8,2.0}","{632.5,0.0}","{709.6,0.0}","{796.2 ,0.0}","{893.4,-0.1}","{1002.4,-0.1}","{1124.7,-0.2}","{1261.9,-0.3}","{1415.9,-0.4}","{1588.7,-0.5}","{1782.5,-0.7}","{2000,-0.9}","{2244,-1.2}","{2517.9,-1.4}","{2825.1,-1.7}","{3169.8,-1.9}","{3556.6,-2.3}","{3990.5,-2.4}","{4477.4,-2.6}","{5023.8,-2.7}","{5636.8,-2.7}","{6324.6,-2.7}","{7096.3,-2.6}","{7962.1,-2.5}","{8933.7,-2.5}","{10023.7,-2.3}","{11246.8,-2.3}","{12619.1,-2.1}","{14158.9,-1.5}","{15886.6,-0.8}","{17825,0.4}","{20000,1.8}"


Nad

"{20.0,-1.4}","{22.4,2.2}","{25.2,6.2}","{31.7,2.2}","{35. 6,6.7}","{39.9,6.7}","{50.2,6.0}","{63.2,5.7}","{7 9.6,5.3}","{100.2,4.2}","{126.2,2.8}","{158.9,1.6} ","{200.0,0.2}","{251.8,0.5}","{317.0,0.3}","{399. 1,0.3}","{502.4,0.5}","{632.5,0.4}","{796.2,0.3}", "{1002.4,0.3}","{1261.9,0.4}","{1588.7,0.4}","{200 0.0,0.2}","{2517.9,0.0}","{3169.8,-0.3}","{3990.5,-0.7}","{5023.8,-0.3}","{6324.6,0.0}","{7962.1,0.3}","{10023.7,0.2} ","{12619.1,-0.2}","{15886.6,0.2}","{20000.0,2.7}"

B and K with 2 db boost

"{28.3,2.0}","{31.7,2.0}","{35.6,2.0}","{39.9,2.0} ","{44.8,2.0}","{709.6,0.0}","{796.2,-0.1}","{893.4,-0.3}","{1002.4,-0.4}","{1124.7,-0.6}","{1261.9,-0.8}","{1415.9,-0.9}","{1588.7,-1.1}","{1782.5,-1.1}","{2000,-1.4}","{2244,-1.4}","{2517.9,-1.5}","{2825.1,-1.7}","{3169.8,-1.8}","{3556.6,-2.0}","{3990.5,-2.1}","{4477.4,-2.2}","{5023.8,-2.2}","{5636.8,-2.1}","{6324.6,-2.1}","{7096.3,-1.8}","{7962.1,-1.8}","{8933.7,-1.8}","{10023.7,-1.7}","{11246.8,-1.6}","{12619.1,-1.4}","{14158.9,-0.8}","{15886.6,-0.2}","{17825,0.9}","{20000,2.3}"

Ah, se me olvidaba, puedes ver como sería X o Y target curves des de aquí

https://audyssey.pages.dev/

Cargas tu .ady y luego a target pones PASTE( primero copias el que quieras probar) y verás como queda.

Cualquier duda por aquí estamos.

Iniciado por mrkitorzzz

Primero, que tipo de curva quieres exactamente? pòr que te decides por la harman? y que harman? quieres que te suavize los agudos? o solo quieres un bass boost?

En todo caso, hagas la que hagas, el subwoofer hazlo manual des de la app, sino queda mal al hacerlo por notepad++, incluso por radbudyssey...

Te dejo algunas curvas que he probado y la verdad, cada una tiene lo suyo.

Spoiler:

B and K curve original.

"{20,1.3}","{22.4,1.4}","{25.2,1.5}","{28.3,1.5}", "{31.7,1.6}","{35.6,1.7}","{39.9,1.7}","{44.8,1.7} ","{50.2,1.7}","{56.4,1.7}","{63.2,1.7}","{71,1.7} ","{79.6,1.7}","{89.3,1.7}","{100.2,1.6}","{112.5, 1.6}","{126.2,1.5}","{141.6,1.4}","{158.9,1.3}","{ 178.3,1.3}","{200,1.2}","{224.4,1.2}","{251.8,1.0} ","{282.5,1.0}","{317,0.9}","{355.7,0.8}","{399.1, 0.7}","{447.7,0.5}","{502.4,0.4}","{563.7,0.3}","{ 632.5,0.2}","{709.6,0.0}","{796.2,-0.1}","{893.4,-0.3}","{1002.4,-0.4}","{1124.7,-0.6}","{1261.9,-0.8}","{1415.9,-0.9}","{1588.7,-1.1}","{1782.5,-1.1}","{2000,-1.4}","{2244,-1.4}","{2517.9,-1.5}","{2825.1,-1.7}","{3169.8,-1.8}","{3556.6,-2.0}","{3990.5,-2.1}","{4477.4,-2.2}","{5023.8,-2.2}","{5636.8,-2.1}","{6324.6,-2.1}","{7096.3,-1.8}","{7962.1,-1.8}","{8933.7,-1.8}","{10023.7,-1.7}","{11246.8,-1.6}","{12619.1,-1.4}","{14158.9,-0.8}","{15886.6,-0.2}","{17825,0.9}","{20000,2.3}"








Flat slope.

"{20,3.5}","{22.4,3.4}","{25.2,3.3}","{28.3,3.2}", "{31.7,3.0}","{35.6,2.9}","{39.9,2.8}","{44.8,2.7} ","{50.2,2.6}","{56.4,2.5}","{63.2,2.3}","{71,2.2} ","{79.6,2.1}","{89.3,2.0}","{100.2,1.9}","{112.5, 1.8}","{126.2,1.6}","{141.6,1.5}","{158.9,1.4}","{ 178.3,1.3}","{200,1.2}","{224.4,1.1}","{251.8,0.9} ","{282.5,0.8}","{317,0.7}","{355.7,0.6}","{399.1, 0.5}","{447.7,0.3}","{502.4,0.2}","{563.7,0.1}","{ 632.5,0.0}","{709.6,-0.1}","{796.2,-0.2}","{893.4,-0.4}","{1002.4,-0.5}","{1124.7,-0.6}","{1261.9,-0.7}","{1415.9,-0.8}","{1588.7,-0.9}","{1782.5,-1.1}","{2000,-1.2}","{2244,-1.3}","{2517.9,-1.4}","{2825.1,-1.5}","{3169.8,-1.6}","{3556.6,-1.8}","{3990.5,-1.8}","{4477.4,-1.8}","{5023.8,-1.7}","{5636.8,-1.6}","{6324.6,-1.5}","{7096.3,-1.3}","{7962.1,-1.2}","{8933.7,-1.1}","{10023.7,-0.9}","{11246.8,-0.8}","{12619.1,-0.5}","{14158.9,0.0}","{15886.6,0.7}","{17825,1.9} ","{20000,3.4}"


Slope and shelf.

"{20,6.0}","{25.2,6.0}","{31.7,6.0}","{39.9,5.6}", "{50.2,5.3}","{63.2,4.9}","{79.6,4.6}","{100.2,4.2 }","{126.2,3.9}","{158.9,3.5}","{200,3.1}","{251.8 ,2.8}","{317,2.4}","{399.1,2.1}","{502.4,1.7}","{6 32.5,1.4}","{796.2,1.0}","{1002.4,0.6}","{1261.9,0 .3}","{1588.7,-0.1}","{2000,-0.4}","{2517.9,-0.8}","{3169.8,-1.1}","{3990.5,-1.5}","{5023.8,-1.5}","{6324.6,-1.4}","{7962.1,-1.2}","{10023.7,-1.0}","{12619.1,-0.8}","{15886.6,0.4}","{20000,2.9}"


Harman

"{20,4.1}","{22.4,5.7}","{25.2,6.6}","{28.3,6.9}", "{31.7,7.0}","{35.6,7.1}","{39.9,7.1}","{44.8,7.1} ","{50.2,7.0}","{56.4,7.0}","{63.2,6.8}","{71,6.3} ","{79.6,5.4}","{89.3,4.2}","{100.2,3.0}","{112.5, 2.1}","{126.2,1.6}","{141.6,1.1}","{158.9,0.9}","{ 178.3,0.7}","{200,0.6}","{224.4,0.5}","{251.8,0.4} ","{282.5,0.3}","{317,0.3}","{355.7,0.2}","{399.1, 0.2}","{447.7,0.1}","{502.4,0.1}","{563.7,0.2}","{ 632.5,0.0}","{709.6,0.0}","{796.2,0.0}","{893.4,-0.1}","{1002.4,-0.1}","{1124.7,-0.2}","{1261.9,-0.3}","{1415.9,-0.4}","{1588.7,-0.5}","{1782.5,-0.7}","{2000,-0.9}","{2244,-1.2}","{2517.9,-1.4}","{2825.1,-1.7}","{3169.8,-1.9}","{3556.6,-2.3}","{3990.5,-2.4}","{4477.4,-2.6}","{5023.8,-2.7}","{5636.8,-2.7}","{6324.6,-2.7}","{7096.3,-2.6}","{7962.1,-2.5}","{8933.7,-2.5}","{10023.7,-2.3}","{11246.8,-2.3}","{12619.1,-2.1}","{14158.9,-1.5}","{15886.6,-0.8}","{17825,0.4}","{20000,1.8}"

Tool

"{20.0,2.3}","{22.4,2.2}","{25.2,2.2}","{28.3,2.2} ","{31.7,2.2}","{35.6,2.1}","{39.9,2.2}","{44.8,2. 1}","{50.2,2.1}","{56.4,2.1}","{63.2,2.0}","{71.0, 2.0}","{79.6,1.8}","{89.3,1.7}","{100.2,1.6}","{11 2.5,1.5}","{126.2,1.4}","{141.6,1.4}","{158.9,1.2} ","{178.3,1.1}","{200.0,1.0}","{224.4,0.9}","{251. 8,0.9}","{282.5,0.7}","{317.0,0.7}","{355.7,0.6}", "{399.1,0.4}","{447.7,0.4}","{502.4,0.3}","{563.7, 0.2}","{632.5,0.2}","{709.6,0.1}","{796.2,0.1}","{ 893.4,0.0}","{1002.4,0.0}","{1124.7,-0.1}","{1261.9,-0.2}","{1415.9,-0.3}","{1588.7,-0.4}","{1782.5,-0.5}","{2000.0,-0.6}","{2244.0,-0.6}","{2517.9,-0.6}","{2825.1,-0.7}","{3169.8,-0.7}","{3556.6,-0.7}","{3990.5,-0.7}","{4477.4,-0.6}","{5023.8,-0.5}","{5636.8,-0.3}","{6324.6,-0.2}","{7096.3,0.1}","{7962.1,0.2}","{8933.7,0.2}" ,"{10023.7,0.3}","{11246.8,0.2}","{12619.1,0.2}"," {14158.9,0.5}","{15886.6,0.7}","{17825.0,1.1}","{2 0000.0,1.9}"

Tool and bass boost

"{20.0,6.3}","{22.4,6.3}","{25.2,6.3}","{28.3,6.3} ","{31.7,6.3}","{35.6,6.2}","{39.9,6.2}","{44.8,6. 1}","{50.2,6.0}","{56.4,5.8}","{63.2,5.5}","{71.0, 5.1}","{79.6,4.6}","{89.3,4.0}","{100.2,3.3}","{11 2.5,2.6}","{126.2,1.9}","{141.6,1.4}","{158.9,1.2} ","{178.3,1.1}","{200.0,1.0}","{224.4,0.9}","{251. 8,0.9}","{282.5,0.7}","{317.0,0.7}","{355.7,0.6}", "{399.1,0.4}","{447.7,0.4}","{502.4,0.3}","{563.7, 0.2}","{632.5,0.2}","{709.6,0.1}","{796.2,0.1}","{ 893.4,0.0}","{1002.4,0.0}","{1124.7,-0.1}","{1261.9,-0.2}","{1415.9,-0.3}","{1588.7,-0.4}","{1782.5,-0.5}","{2000.0,-0.6}","{2244.0,-0.6}","{2517.9,-0.6}","{2825.1,-0.7}","{3169.8,-0.7}","{3556.6,-0.7}","{3990.5,-0.7}","{4477.4,-0.6}","{5023.8,-0.5}","{5636.8,-0.3}","{6324.6,-0.2}","{7096.3,0.1}","{7962.1,0.2}","{8933.7,0.2}" ,"{10023.7,0.3}","{11246.8,0.2}","{12619.1,0.2}"," {14158.9,0.5}","{15886.6,0.7}","{17825.0,1.1}","{2 0000.0,1.9}"

Tool HT.

"{20,2.4}","{22.4,2.3}","{25.2,2.3}","{28.3,2.3}", "{31.7,2.3}","{35.6,2.2}","{39.9,2.3}","{44.8,2.2} ","{50.2,2.2}","{56.4,2.2}","{63.2,2.1}","{71,2.1} ","{79.6,2.0}","{89.3,1.9}","{100.2,1.9}","{112.5, 1.7}","{126.2,1.6}","{141.6,1.5}","{158.9,1.4}","{ 178.3,1.2}","{200,1.2}","{224.4,1.0}","{251.8,1.0} ","{282.5,0.8}","{317,0.7}","{355.7,0.6}","{399.1, 0.5}","{447.7,0.4}","{502.4,0.2}","{563.7,0.2}","{ 632.5,0.0}","{709.6,-0.1}","{796.2,-0.2}","{893.4,-0.4}","{1002.4,-0.5}","{1124.7,-0.6}","{1261.9,-0.7}","{1415.9,-0.8}","{1588.7,-0.9}","{1782.5,-1.1}","{2000,-1.0}","{2244,-1.1}","{2517.9,-1.1}","{2825.1,-1.1}","{3169.8,-1.1}","{3556.6,-1.1}","{3990.5,-1.0}","{4477.4,-0.9}","{5023.8,-0.7}","{5636.8,-0.6}","{6324.6,-0.5}","{7096.3,-0.2}","{7962.1,-0.1}","{8933.7,0.0}","{10023.7,0.3}","{11246.8,0.5 }","{12619.1,0.9}","{14158.9,1.6}","{15886.6,2.4}" ,"{17825,3.7}","{20000,5.3}"

Harman with 2 db boost.


"{28.3,2.0}","{31.7,2.0}","{35.6,2.0}","{39.9,2.0} ","{44.8,2.0}","{632.5,0.0}","{709.6,0.0}","{796.2 ,0.0}","{893.4,-0.1}","{1002.4,-0.1}","{1124.7,-0.2}","{1261.9,-0.3}","{1415.9,-0.4}","{1588.7,-0.5}","{1782.5,-0.7}","{2000,-0.9}","{2244,-1.2}","{2517.9,-1.4}","{2825.1,-1.7}","{3169.8,-1.9}","{3556.6,-2.3}","{3990.5,-2.4}","{4477.4,-2.6}","{5023.8,-2.7}","{5636.8,-2.7}","{6324.6,-2.7}","{7096.3,-2.6}","{7962.1,-2.5}","{8933.7,-2.5}","{10023.7,-2.3}","{11246.8,-2.3}","{12619.1,-2.1}","{14158.9,-1.5}","{15886.6,-0.8}","{17825,0.4}","{20000,1.8}"


Nad

"{20.0,-1.4}","{22.4,2.2}","{25.2,6.2}","{31.7,2.2}","{35. 6,6.7}","{39.9,6.7}","{50.2,6.0}","{63.2,5.7}","{7 9.6,5.3}","{100.2,4.2}","{126.2,2.8}","{158.9,1.6} ","{200.0,0.2}","{251.8,0.5}","{317.0,0.3}","{399. 1,0.3}","{502.4,0.5}","{632.5,0.4}","{796.2,0.3}", "{1002.4,0.3}","{1261.9,0.4}","{1588.7,0.4}","{200 0.0,0.2}","{2517.9,0.0}","{3169.8,-0.3}","{3990.5,-0.7}","{5023.8,-0.3}","{6324.6,0.0}","{7962.1,0.3}","{10023.7,0.2} ","{12619.1,-0.2}","{15886.6,0.2}","{20000.0,2.7}"

B and K with 2 db boost

"{28.3,2.0}","{31.7,2.0}","{35.6,2.0}","{39.9,2.0} ","{44.8,2.0}","{709.6,0.0}","{796.2,-0.1}","{893.4,-0.3}","{1002.4,-0.4}","{1124.7,-0.6}","{1261.9,-0.8}","{1415.9,-0.9}","{1588.7,-1.1}","{1782.5,-1.1}","{2000,-1.4}","{2244,-1.4}","{2517.9,-1.5}","{2825.1,-1.7}","{3169.8,-1.8}","{3556.6,-2.0}","{3990.5,-2.1}","{4477.4,-2.2}","{5023.8,-2.2}","{5636.8,-2.1}","{6324.6,-2.1}","{7096.3,-1.8}","{7962.1,-1.8}","{8933.7,-1.8}","{10023.7,-1.7}","{11246.8,-1.6}","{12619.1,-1.4}","{14158.9,-0.8}","{15886.6,-0.2}","{17825,0.9}","{20000,2.3}"

Ah, se me olvidaba, puedes ver como sería X o Y target curves des de aquí

https://audyssey.pages.dev/

Cargas tu .ady y luego a target pones PASTE( primero copias el que quieras probar) y verás como queda.

Cualquier duda por aquí estamos.

Muchas gracias Mrkitirzzz, quisiera probar la curva Harman+4 simplemente por probar, ya que leo en varios sitios que es más “cine”, yo sí que es verdad que a mí actual configuración le daría algo más de cuerpo y le quitaría agudos, y creo que le hiris bien.
Viendo el documento que has pasado la que pone Harman es la Harman+4? Porque no coincide ni con la de Tocinillo ni con la otra del primer mensaje ��
Buena pinta la web donde probarlas. Gracias.

Iniciado por maximo86

Muchas gracias Mrkitirzzz, quisiera probar la curva Harman+4 simplemente por probar, ya que leo en varios sitios que es más “cine”, yo sí que es verdad que a mí actual configuración le daría algo más de cuerpo y le quitaría agudos, y creo que le hiris bien.
Viendo el documento que has pasado la que pone Harman es la Harman+4? Porque no coincide ni con la de Tocinillo ni con la otra del primer mensaje ��
Buena pinta la web donde probarlas. Gracias.

En principio la que hay aquí en el foro, la que pone que dice tocinillo, es la harman +4, ya que si miras, los números son que a 20hz sube 4db, y así hasta llegar al punto "medio" y luego "aplasta" los medios-graves a partir de 300 y algo HZ.

Pero que al final, es ir probando, en algunos sitios hay una y en otros otra..depende del año y la versión o de donde la "interpreten", pero cualquiera que veas que realze los bajos y medios hasta 300-500hz sin pasarse, le dará mas cuerpo.

Alguien puede poner una curva sin tener que copiar y pegar que se me escapa!! prefiero hacerlo manualmente

Que tal, muchas gracias por el tutorial,
Pues ya lo tengo, pero me hace algunas cosas raras. He metido la de Tocinillo y lo primero que veo raro es que en 20khz le mete un +0.9db por que¿?
y luego la curva me hace unas subidas en 3.6khz y alguna cosa mas rara, aunque debo decir que la pasarla a la app apenas se nota, subo unas fotos para ver si lo veis correcto o si modifico algo. Mil gracias por la ayuda.

Pd; un compañero que me está viendo aburrido del foro me ha hablado también de las curvas one evo, he encontrado un tutorial, esta tarde la haré también a ver y las probaré, los que habéis utilizado ambas, cuál preferís??
IMG_0947.jpgIMG_0946.jpgIMG_0948.jpg

Iniciado por mrkitorzzz

Primero, que tipo de curva quieres exactamente? pòr que te decides por la harman? y que harman? quieres que te suavize los agudos? o solo quieres un bass boost?

En todo caso, hagas la que hagas, el subwoofer hazlo manual des de la app, sino queda mal al hacerlo por notepad++, incluso por radbudyssey...

Te dejo algunas curvas que he probado y la verdad, cada una tiene lo suyo.

Spoiler:

B and K curve original.

"{20,1.3}","{22.4,1.4}","{25.2,1.5}","{28.3,1.5}", "{31.7,1.6}","{35.6,1.7}","{39.9,1.7}","{44.8,1.7} ","{50.2,1.7}","{56.4,1.7}","{63.2,1.7}","{71,1.7} ","{79.6,1.7}","{89.3,1.7}","{100.2,1.6}","{112.5, 1.6}","{126.2,1.5}","{141.6,1.4}","{158.9,1.3}","{ 178.3,1.3}","{200,1.2}","{224.4,1.2}","{251.8,1.0} ","{282.5,1.0}","{317,0.9}","{355.7,0.8}","{399.1, 0.7}","{447.7,0.5}","{502.4,0.4}","{563.7,0.3}","{ 632.5,0.2}","{709.6,0.0}","{796.2,-0.1}","{893.4,-0.3}","{1002.4,-0.4}","{1124.7,-0.6}","{1261.9,-0.8}","{1415.9,-0.9}","{1588.7,-1.1}","{1782.5,-1.1}","{2000,-1.4}","{2244,-1.4}","{2517.9,-1.5}","{2825.1,-1.7}","{3169.8,-1.8}","{3556.6,-2.0}","{3990.5,-2.1}","{4477.4,-2.2}","{5023.8,-2.2}","{5636.8,-2.1}","{6324.6,-2.1}","{7096.3,-1.8}","{7962.1,-1.8}","{8933.7,-1.8}","{10023.7,-1.7}","{11246.8,-1.6}","{12619.1,-1.4}","{14158.9,-0.8}","{15886.6,-0.2}","{17825,0.9}","{20000,2.3}"








Flat slope.

"{20,3.5}","{22.4,3.4}","{25.2,3.3}","{28.3,3.2}", "{31.7,3.0}","{35.6,2.9}","{39.9,2.8}","{44.8,2.7} ","{50.2,2.6}","{56.4,2.5}","{63.2,2.3}","{71,2.2} ","{79.6,2.1}","{89.3,2.0}","{100.2,1.9}","{112.5, 1.8}","{126.2,1.6}","{141.6,1.5}","{158.9,1.4}","{ 178.3,1.3}","{200,1.2}","{224.4,1.1}","{251.8,0.9} ","{282.5,0.8}","{317,0.7}","{355.7,0.6}","{399.1, 0.5}","{447.7,0.3}","{502.4,0.2}","{563.7,0.1}","{ 632.5,0.0}","{709.6,-0.1}","{796.2,-0.2}","{893.4,-0.4}","{1002.4,-0.5}","{1124.7,-0.6}","{1261.9,-0.7}","{1415.9,-0.8}","{1588.7,-0.9}","{1782.5,-1.1}","{2000,-1.2}","{2244,-1.3}","{2517.9,-1.4}","{2825.1,-1.5}","{3169.8,-1.6}","{3556.6,-1.8}","{3990.5,-1.8}","{4477.4,-1.8}","{5023.8,-1.7}","{5636.8,-1.6}","{6324.6,-1.5}","{7096.3,-1.3}","{7962.1,-1.2}","{8933.7,-1.1}","{10023.7,-0.9}","{11246.8,-0.8}","{12619.1,-0.5}","{14158.9,0.0}","{15886.6,0.7}","{17825,1.9} ","{20000,3.4}"


Slope and shelf.

"{20,6.0}","{25.2,6.0}","{31.7,6.0}","{39.9,5.6}", "{50.2,5.3}","{63.2,4.9}","{79.6,4.6}","{100.2,4.2 }","{126.2,3.9}","{158.9,3.5}","{200,3.1}","{251.8 ,2.8}","{317,2.4}","{399.1,2.1}","{502.4,1.7}","{6 32.5,1.4}","{796.2,1.0}","{1002.4,0.6}","{1261.9,0 .3}","{1588.7,-0.1}","{2000,-0.4}","{2517.9,-0.8}","{3169.8,-1.1}","{3990.5,-1.5}","{5023.8,-1.5}","{6324.6,-1.4}","{7962.1,-1.2}","{10023.7,-1.0}","{12619.1,-0.8}","{15886.6,0.4}","{20000,2.9}"


Harman

"{20,4.1}","{22.4,5.7}","{25.2,6.6}","{28.3,6.9}", "{31.7,7.0}","{35.6,7.1}","{39.9,7.1}","{44.8,7.1} ","{50.2,7.0}","{56.4,7.0}","{63.2,6.8}","{71,6.3} ","{79.6,5.4}","{89.3,4.2}","{100.2,3.0}","{112.5, 2.1}","{126.2,1.6}","{141.6,1.1}","{158.9,0.9}","{ 178.3,0.7}","{200,0.6}","{224.4,0.5}","{251.8,0.4} ","{282.5,0.3}","{317,0.3}","{355.7,0.2}","{399.1, 0.2}","{447.7,0.1}","{502.4,0.1}","{563.7,0.2}","{ 632.5,0.0}","{709.6,0.0}","{796.2,0.0}","{893.4,-0.1}","{1002.4,-0.1}","{1124.7,-0.2}","{1261.9,-0.3}","{1415.9,-0.4}","{1588.7,-0.5}","{1782.5,-0.7}","{2000,-0.9}","{2244,-1.2}","{2517.9,-1.4}","{2825.1,-1.7}","{3169.8,-1.9}","{3556.6,-2.3}","{3990.5,-2.4}","{4477.4,-2.6}","{5023.8,-2.7}","{5636.8,-2.7}","{6324.6,-2.7}","{7096.3,-2.6}","{7962.1,-2.5}","{8933.7,-2.5}","{10023.7,-2.3}","{11246.8,-2.3}","{12619.1,-2.1}","{14158.9,-1.5}","{15886.6,-0.8}","{17825,0.4}","{20000,1.8}"

Tool

"{20.0,2.3}","{22.4,2.2}","{25.2,2.2}","{28.3,2.2} ","{31.7,2.2}","{35.6,2.1}","{39.9,2.2}","{44.8,2. 1}","{50.2,2.1}","{56.4,2.1}","{63.2,2.0}","{71.0, 2.0}","{79.6,1.8}","{89.3,1.7}","{100.2,1.6}","{11 2.5,1.5}","{126.2,1.4}","{141.6,1.4}","{158.9,1.2} ","{178.3,1.1}","{200.0,1.0}","{224.4,0.9}","{251. 8,0.9}","{282.5,0.7}","{317.0,0.7}","{355.7,0.6}", "{399.1,0.4}","{447.7,0.4}","{502.4,0.3}","{563.7, 0.2}","{632.5,0.2}","{709.6,0.1}","{796.2,0.1}","{ 893.4,0.0}","{1002.4,0.0}","{1124.7,-0.1}","{1261.9,-0.2}","{1415.9,-0.3}","{1588.7,-0.4}","{1782.5,-0.5}","{2000.0,-0.6}","{2244.0,-0.6}","{2517.9,-0.6}","{2825.1,-0.7}","{3169.8,-0.7}","{3556.6,-0.7}","{3990.5,-0.7}","{4477.4,-0.6}","{5023.8,-0.5}","{5636.8,-0.3}","{6324.6,-0.2}","{7096.3,0.1}","{7962.1,0.2}","{8933.7,0.2}" ,"{10023.7,0.3}","{11246.8,0.2}","{12619.1,0.2}"," {14158.9,0.5}","{15886.6,0.7}","{17825.0,1.1}","{2 0000.0,1.9}"

Tool and bass boost

"{20.0,6.3}","{22.4,6.3}","{25.2,6.3}","{28.3,6.3} ","{31.7,6.3}","{35.6,6.2}","{39.9,6.2}","{44.8,6. 1}","{50.2,6.0}","{56.4,5.8}","{63.2,5.5}","{71.0, 5.1}","{79.6,4.6}","{89.3,4.0}","{100.2,3.3}","{11 2.5,2.6}","{126.2,1.9}","{141.6,1.4}","{158.9,1.2} ","{178.3,1.1}","{200.0,1.0}","{224.4,0.9}","{251. 8,0.9}","{282.5,0.7}","{317.0,0.7}","{355.7,0.6}", "{399.1,0.4}","{447.7,0.4}","{502.4,0.3}","{563.7, 0.2}","{632.5,0.2}","{709.6,0.1}","{796.2,0.1}","{ 893.4,0.0}","{1002.4,0.0}","{1124.7,-0.1}","{1261.9,-0.2}","{1415.9,-0.3}","{1588.7,-0.4}","{1782.5,-0.5}","{2000.0,-0.6}","{2244.0,-0.6}","{2517.9,-0.6}","{2825.1,-0.7}","{3169.8,-0.7}","{3556.6,-0.7}","{3990.5,-0.7}","{4477.4,-0.6}","{5023.8,-0.5}","{5636.8,-0.3}","{6324.6,-0.2}","{7096.3,0.1}","{7962.1,0.2}","{8933.7,0.2}" ,"{10023.7,0.3}","{11246.8,0.2}","{12619.1,0.2}"," {14158.9,0.5}","{15886.6,0.7}","{17825.0,1.1}","{2 0000.0,1.9}"

Tool HT.

"{20,2.4}","{22.4,2.3}","{25.2,2.3}","{28.3,2.3}", "{31.7,2.3}","{35.6,2.2}","{39.9,2.3}","{44.8,2.2} ","{50.2,2.2}","{56.4,2.2}","{63.2,2.1}","{71,2.1} ","{79.6,2.0}","{89.3,1.9}","{100.2,1.9}","{112.5, 1.7}","{126.2,1.6}","{141.6,1.5}","{158.9,1.4}","{ 178.3,1.2}","{200,1.2}","{224.4,1.0}","{251.8,1.0} ","{282.5,0.8}","{317,0.7}","{355.7,0.6}","{399.1, 0.5}","{447.7,0.4}","{502.4,0.2}","{563.7,0.2}","{ 632.5,0.0}","{709.6,-0.1}","{796.2,-0.2}","{893.4,-0.4}","{1002.4,-0.5}","{1124.7,-0.6}","{1261.9,-0.7}","{1415.9,-0.8}","{1588.7,-0.9}","{1782.5,-1.1}","{2000,-1.0}","{2244,-1.1}","{2517.9,-1.1}","{2825.1,-1.1}","{3169.8,-1.1}","{3556.6,-1.1}","{3990.5,-1.0}","{4477.4,-0.9}","{5023.8,-0.7}","{5636.8,-0.6}","{6324.6,-0.5}","{7096.3,-0.2}","{7962.1,-0.1}","{8933.7,0.0}","{10023.7,0.3}","{11246.8,0.5 }","{12619.1,0.9}","{14158.9,1.6}","{15886.6,2.4}" ,"{17825,3.7}","{20000,5.3}"

Harman with 2 db boost.


"{28.3,2.0}","{31.7,2.0}","{35.6,2.0}","{39.9,2.0} ","{44.8,2.0}","{632.5,0.0}","{709.6,0.0}","{796.2 ,0.0}","{893.4,-0.1}","{1002.4,-0.1}","{1124.7,-0.2}","{1261.9,-0.3}","{1415.9,-0.4}","{1588.7,-0.5}","{1782.5,-0.7}","{2000,-0.9}","{2244,-1.2}","{2517.9,-1.4}","{2825.1,-1.7}","{3169.8,-1.9}","{3556.6,-2.3}","{3990.5,-2.4}","{4477.4,-2.6}","{5023.8,-2.7}","{5636.8,-2.7}","{6324.6,-2.7}","{7096.3,-2.6}","{7962.1,-2.5}","{8933.7,-2.5}","{10023.7,-2.3}","{11246.8,-2.3}","{12619.1,-2.1}","{14158.9,-1.5}","{15886.6,-0.8}","{17825,0.4}","{20000,1.8}"


Nad

"{20.0,-1.4}","{22.4,2.2}","{25.2,6.2}","{31.7,2.2}","{35. 6,6.7}","{39.9,6.7}","{50.2,6.0}","{63.2,5.7}","{7 9.6,5.3}","{100.2,4.2}","{126.2,2.8}","{158.9,1.6} ","{200.0,0.2}","{251.8,0.5}","{317.0,0.3}","{399. 1,0.3}","{502.4,0.5}","{632.5,0.4}","{796.2,0.3}", "{1002.4,0.3}","{1261.9,0.4}","{1588.7,0.4}","{200 0.0,0.2}","{2517.9,0.0}","{3169.8,-0.3}","{3990.5,-0.7}","{5023.8,-0.3}","{6324.6,0.0}","{7962.1,0.3}","{10023.7,0.2} ","{12619.1,-0.2}","{15886.6,0.2}","{20000.0,2.7}"

B and K with 2 db boost

"{28.3,2.0}","{31.7,2.0}","{35.6,2.0}","{39.9,2.0} ","{44.8,2.0}","{709.6,0.0}","{796.2,-0.1}","{893.4,-0.3}","{1002.4,-0.4}","{1124.7,-0.6}","{1261.9,-0.8}","{1415.9,-0.9}","{1588.7,-1.1}","{1782.5,-1.1}","{2000,-1.4}","{2244,-1.4}","{2517.9,-1.5}","{2825.1,-1.7}","{3169.8,-1.8}","{3556.6,-2.0}","{3990.5,-2.1}","{4477.4,-2.2}","{5023.8,-2.2}","{5636.8,-2.1}","{6324.6,-2.1}","{7096.3,-1.8}","{7962.1,-1.8}","{8933.7,-1.8}","{10023.7,-1.7}","{11246.8,-1.6}","{12619.1,-1.4}","{14158.9,-0.8}","{15886.6,-0.2}","{17825,0.9}","{20000,2.3}"

Ah, se me olvidaba, puedes ver como sería X o Y target curves des de aquí

https://audyssey.pages.dev/

Cargas tu .ady y luego a target pones PASTE( primero copias el que quieras probar) y verás como queda.

Cualquier duda por aquí estamos.

Que tal compañero, agradecerte la web que me aconsejaste aquí, he pasado todo el fin de semana haciendo pruebas con harman con evo y demás, y al final lo que he hecho ha sido una especie de Harman+4 modificada a mi gusto y equipo utilizando la web https://audyssey.pages.dev/ ha sido un finde productivo . lo dicho, gracias!

Iniciado por maximo86

Que tal compañero, agradecerte la web que me aconsejaste aquí, he pasado todo el fin de semana haciendo pruebas con harman con evo y demás, y al final lo que he hecho ha sido una especie de Harman+4 modificada a mi gusto y equipo utilizando la web https://audyssey.pages.dev/ ha sido un finde productivo . lo dicho, gracias!

Una pequeña puntualización, aunque me imagino que lo sabes, si haces una curva Harman que posee un realce en los graves y una ligera caída en los agudos, es para utilizar con Dinamic EQ desactivado.

Si quieres utilizar Dinamic EQ, utiliza la curva por defecto de Audyssey, con la compensación del rango medio desactivada, o en su defecto utiliza Audyssey Evo, que después de la conversión, te facilita dos curvas, una curva para utilizar con Dinamic EQ Activado, y otra para utilizar con Dinamic EQ desactivado.


Un saludo.

Hola a todos,
Agradecería vuestra ayuda con un problema que tengo con el Marantz SR7012.
Actualmente tengo conectadas 2 salidas HDMI: el MONITOR 1 ARC a la TV y el MONITOR 2 al proyector. Y tengo diferentes entradas conectadas los HDMI, como por ejemplo el Apple TV.
He puesto la TV en modo ARC y funciona correctamente: cuando enciendo la TV, se pone en marcha el audio del Marantz a través del HDMI ARC.
Sin embargo, cuando lo quiero utilizar “al revés”, es decir, para enviar señal de una de las entradas a la TV, ésta “no se entera”. Si pongo en marcha el proyector, entonces sí que “entiende” que tiene que enviar señal de imagen en lugar de recibir audio, pero cuando paro el proyector, estamos en las mismas, pierdo la señal. No sé si me explico…
¿Sabéis cómo se soluciona? Es decir, ¿cómo lo tengo que hacer para que el HDMI ARC envíe señal del Marantz a la TV cuando selecciono una entrada del Marantz y en cambio que reproduzca el sonido que viene por el ARC cuando es la TV la que se pone en marcha?
Gracias